Patton Oswalt
Shrill: Notes from a Loud WomanPatton Oswalt occupies a shifting place in Lindy West’s account of comedy: he is first one of the comics whose work she sought out with near-reverence, then a defender of Daniel Tosh during a dispute over rape jokes, and finally a prominent comic who publicly recognized the limits of his own perspective. The movement between these roles gives their disagreement its personal edge, while West’s account also shows how the same ideas can receive radically different responses depending on who voices them.
Early admiration and the comedy world
During college in Los Angeles, West went to comedy shows as often as she could, usually alone. She saw Oswalt working out new material at M Bar, alongside performances by other comics that made the comedy scene feel almost impossibly accessible to her. She was starstruck by the proximity of performers she regarded as important figures, and comedy itself offered a kind of belonging: its unruly, excessive energy seemed to welcome people who felt out of place elsewhere.
Oswalt’s appearance in this early scene is brief, but it establishes a genuine basis for West’s later disappointment. Her interest was not merely professional or argumentative. She had loved comedy as a form that could make a lonely person feel less alone, and she had gone to shows wanting to be immersed in the work. The account therefore places the later dispute against the memory of an admirer encountering a comic she respected, rather than presenting it as a quarrel between strangers.
Support for Daniel Tosh and the online dispute
A few months into West’s time at Jezebel, she was assigned to respond to the controversy over Tosh’s rape joke at the Laugh Factory. After a woman in the audience objected to the joke, Tosh addressed the room with a further suggestion of sexual violence; the woman left, later describing the encounter as frightening and threatening. In the backlash that followed, Oswalt joined other comedians in supporting Tosh. West characterizes the defense as an appeal to artistic freedom that treated criticism as an attack on comedy itself.
West wrote How to Make a Rape Joke to argue that comedy could address terrible subjects, while insisting that comics could use their work to challenge cruelty rather than reinforce it. When Sady Doyle and Molly Knefel faced severe abuse for criticizing rape jokes and the comedy industry, West wrote in their defense. Oswalt then shared West’s essay while praising it as a form of feminist argument he could respect, in contrast to Knefel’s piece. West objected that her position and Knefel’s were not opposed, and that praising one while discrediting the other sidestepped the substance of the criticism.
The exchange unsettled West in part because she remembered a very different interaction. At M Bar in 2003 or 2004, she had approached Oswalt after a show to tell him he was her favorite comic. She recalled him as kind and generous with his time. They spoke about Seattle but could not remember the name of the movie theater on the Ave other than the Neptune; after she later recalled that it was the Varsity, she emailed him, and he replied warmly. West does not erase that kindness when recounting the online disagreement. Instead, the contrast between the two encounters makes clear that personal goodwill did not prevent a public conflict over whose criticism was heard.
Acknowledgment and unequal reception
Later, Oswalt published an open letter about rape jokes that acknowledged that men might not be able to understand what women experience in everyday life, including the effects of other men’s behavior and of media representations. In West’s reading, the letter marked a meaningful shift: it accepted that a person’s lack of direct experience does not invalidate another person’s account. The change was notable not because it settled the debate, but because it opened a space for recognizing the reality that the jokes’ critics had been describing.
Oswalt received praise for the position. West, Sady Doyle, Molly Knefel, and generations of women comics, she observes, had expressed similar ideas and received abuse instead. That disparity complicates the apparent victory. A respected man’s endorsement could make an argument newly acceptable to an audience that had dismissed women making it first. West remains grateful for Oswalt’s intervention while refusing to treat the applause around him as proof that the earlier mistreatment was fair or inconsequential.
She also considers what the letter might do beyond the immediate dispute. A young comedy fan might encounter Oswalt’s acknowledgment, carry the idea forward, and become less willing to repeat the assumptions of an earlier generation. West presents that possibility as a limited but real gain: not a claim that one essay transforms its readers at once, but a reason to keep making the argument. Oswalt’s place in the narrative is thus neither simple villain nor uncomplicated ally. He is a comic West admired, a participant in a dispute that exposed the unequal authority accorded to women’s criticism, and a public voice whose later recognition might reach people that criticism had not yet reached.